Comment on The ‘calmswan’ G group /2009/05/31/comment-on-the-calmswan-g-group/

Comment on The ‘calmswan’ G group

mybrainisafleamarket
MBFM
Comment on The ‘calmswan’ G group

Submitted on 2009/05/29 at 10:21am

“There was no overt cruelty, and the oppression was subtle and voluntary on the part of the oppressed. ”

Yawn. That’s the standard BS.

Groups of this sort recruit people already wounded enough to gravitate toward oppressive power imbalance.

Anyone with sufficient adult agency to avoid such a group is despised as being egoistic or asleep.

Anyone unconsciously re-enacting oppressive power imbalances is acting out of a preformatted script learned in childhood. Adult consent is not even possible in such an instance.

G groups and anything like it just continue the oppression rather than assisting us to wake up enough to break the cycle.

And for that, G work is not enough. One needs a licensed psychotherapist who has worked thorugh personal counter transferance issues via a training analysis.

We can only hope to steer clear of the many therapists whose professional formation gets gummed up by instructors who have bought into gurdjieff bullshit and think it can be reconciled with psychotherapy. It cannot.

Am guessing that a lot of folks in the G world dont like it now that the internet is aiding in disperson of first person reports of time wasted in groups such as Calmswan.

We dont know how much time we each have to live. Wasted time is a tragedy and not always by conscious consent.

Again, what is so awful about dying like a dog?

Dogs reciprocate our love and loyalty, which is more than can be said of operators like Gurdjieff.

“There was no overt cruelty, and the oppression was subtle and voluntary on the part of the oppressed. ”

Yawn. That’s the standard BS.

Groups of this sort recruit people already wounded enough to gravitate toward oppressive power imbalance.

Anyone with sufficient adult agency to avoid such a group is despised as being egoistic or asleep.

Anyone unconsciously re-enacting oppressive power imbalances is acting out of a preformatted script learned in childhood. Adult consent is not even possible in such an instance.

G groups and anything like it just continue the oppression rather than assisting us to wake up enough to break the cycle.

And for that, G work is not enough. One needs a licensed psychotherapist who has worked thorugh personal counter transferance issues via a training analysis.

We can only hope to steer clear of the many therapists whose professional formation gets gummed up by instructors who have bought into gurdjieff bullshit and think it can be reconciled with psychotherapy. It cannot.

Am guessing that a lot of folks in the G world dont like it now that the internet is aiding in disperson of first person reports of time wasted in groups such as Calmswan.

We dont know how much time we each have to live. Wasted time is a tragedy and not always by conscious consent.

Again, what is so awful about dying like a dog?

Dogs reciprocate our love and loyalty, which is more than can be said of operators like Gurdjieff.

mybrainisafleamarket

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